The question here is are we going to have NO RULES or a lot of RULES. If I get into a beef with someone, I have no problem getting in their face and telling them to @#$% off. But thats not the kind of place renderosity is and it shouldn't be. Its the mods job to make sure people are being respectful. There are people on rosity who are masters of violating the TOS without getting banned. They use multiple accounts, veiled insults and carefully crafted verbal abuse. So it really is a matter of a bad apple spoiling the whole bunch. How is anyone going to learn if all that goes one here is arguing and cheap shots. I mean, look at this thread, its absurd.