Good points all, Ironbear. Thank you. For what it's worth, we used to be a very agile and active merchant in the context of Rendo. For that matter, we still do pretty well with sales here. However the agility we used to be so pleased with here came because we were able to to really connect with our cutomers. Between situations like the ones represented in this thread and the many continued layers of excessive control being excercised throughout Rendo, it's become a very "tow the line" kind of place. It's no secret that we are fans of our own site. It's no secret as well that our site is experiencing some amazing growth right now. What I find amusing is how loose the rules on many things are until you show a level of autonomy. It's like in many industries: show the distributors in the chain that you as a producer aren't 100% bound to them, and see how quick they start trying to head off your efforts. It's an analogy, sure; but one worth considering for thos merchants active in this thread. Until recently, Rebekah and I remained quiet about a lot of little things. Advice to us ona personal level from some folks involved on the other side of things is to continue to not make waves. But you're right, Ironbear: principles are nice, but you can spend money. I like that. That is a comment that I can concurr with completely. We pulled out of Daz earlier last year based on principles too numerous to list here. Many situations at Rendo are very close to pushing us in the same direction here. Hell, the overall atmosphere of "lock it down, control the community, control the market" that is being perpetuated here was a big part of why we left Daz. And just for the record, you can do alright on your own. We do quite well. Personally, I think members and merchants alike need to step up to the plate here, put thier ideas, ethics and attitudes on the line and show exactly why "the customer comes first" is the hallmark of good business. Rendo is slapping it's customers (members and merchants both fall into that customer banner IMO) right in the face repeatedly. I wonder if we'll be missed when the banning patrol comes our way.:) BTW: since I haven't recieved an official notice yet, am I to assume I hav'ent incurred the wrath of the almight admins yet? Or have I jsut accrued enough without notice that my notice will be a finger pointed to the dorr? Announcements without definition are a dangerous thing. :)