G4 733, gig ram.... 8:02 not bad for this old(I can't believe it's old already) machine If you want a G5 wait a few more weeks... I've been hearing some hubub about a prob with cases or some such thing and they recalled a bunch.. so they'll be selling refi's soon? Don't ask where i heard it cause I truely don't remember but ... it may be worth a month or two wait. Also, Don't be sacred of refi's... they fix things that way.. and you get it cheap.. also Apple give like new warr. on them.. I'd say 80% of all my apple hardware are refis and I have NEVER had a prob with any of them.. (and I have had troubles with new systems from apple more than once) food for thought

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