Hey alright! That will teach me to go to sleep! Geep, I am finding that not all lights have a shadow cam, or am I asleep on this also. If you create a light, turn on shadows, then check the camera list, there will be a shadow cam light for that light? I'm goofing off at work so I can't check that here. I'll try decreasing shadow bias also. I'll report back later tonight. I also have had hair pulling moments trying to upscale a Poser figure. I'm really not going that route as SamTherapy points out it makes using Poser hard to do. Thanks all!