Bazze, it occurred to me, that by you expressing your opinion on the use of freebies/presents (and that would include models, mats, textures, sets, props, skies, terrains, or anything not specifically yours), that should 'you' -ever- need to use them in an image, by your own standards, that image could never be considered a 'great' or 'excellent' image, but only so-so...

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