hmmm... Kiss Anton's ass and create better Poser art ? I don't see an issue here ;-) (Sorry Anton, I don't know you very well, but this was just too good an opportunity to take the pi^^^...poke fun at things) " he doesn't appear to hold grudges when it's just you speaking your opinion." No. And too many people do, and too many people seem to keep a grudge record, and it's like this infestation of gnats with little nibbles and back-bites at any opportunity. Its almost like the generic forum motto reads "Let no slight or grudge be forgotten" - and the traffic it generates is impressive to behold. Or maybe there is just some major culture thing I am not getting ;-) ~S