Hi EllPro, there are a lot of programs with random buttons. The problem is that most of the images generated with random buttons need a little tweaking. Most of the newer fractal programs are geared more toward the artistic than mathmatical. You kind of get hooked into the math part. I really don't like math that much, but I catch myself reading and studing all I can to help. I was actually reading a paper on "matrix math" just yesterday. If someone had told me a year ago that I would be learning so much math, I would never believed them. Oh well, we live, we learn, we live some more! William