Thanks again guys, and I am still chipping away at it. And looks like I am going SMG but with style. I figure it's not for production so it's got some eye candy. Looking like the executive type firearm. I'll post a pic later tonight,... I figure one more pot of coffee and I should be ready for round 2! BTW I may make a "space blaster" or something like that out of the original design,... who knows! Thanks Guys! Artworksco ?:>)