Ok, good info. :) However, how is this a new stability issue -- even counting the larger footprint, it's still the same issue as before. You state excessive, but it's no more so than previous versions -- simply a greater amount because of the greater feature set. You can't possibly be saying that a larger memory footprint makes a program more inherently shaky. If so, lord knows how bad the programs noted earlier are (all of them have footprints comparable). But you are not -- you are merely resating (and more exactly than my "common man style") what I said while correcting impressions about memory leaks. (I've never had a memory leak on the XP systems or 2k systems I have, but it's been a long long time since I've run it on 9x -- I find it interesting other folks do.) So, something other than the same stuff P4/PP has. Anyone?

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