hi Lynn and thanks for stepping in, although the problem isnt finding where to sign up for the vue pro trial, the problem is with the link that you get emailed to you once you has signed up for the vue 4 pro trial. so in other words :) the link to sign up for the vue 4 pro trial works but the emailed link to the downloadable vue 4 pro trial isnt working for me for some reason A well i guess ill have to wait a few days until its sorted out :) Once again thanks for stepping in.