Thanx, guys. :)I tried the cloth strip, but it's about half as short as I need, and it doesn't really fold too well when extended to the correct length. I've got a friend I'm trying to get to build me a scarf in 3dsmax... have to see what he comes up with. The coat came from Morph World.. it's the basic trenchcoat with some morph targets added to open the front. The problem being that the stock trenchcoat was never designed to open, and the only way to seperate the front parts was to tear the model, leaving that unsightly rend down the front.