I didn't use a bump map on the Vicky texture, but happy it looks as though I did...=) Instead I create large maps with lots of grain added to the skin...=) I think it's a lot easier and you get the same effect.. Interesting that the Michael map is using a bump map in the image but yet he still looks as grainy as Vicky.. BTW, no post work other than a smug on the hair.. I agree about the pinkish color on Michael though.. Whoa, that dude needs to stay out of the sun for a while..ha! I also agree that the Zygote texture is a great base and it's a whole lot better than the original Zygote Vicky texture.. I was kinda disappointed in the blonde eyebrows though.. If I want to make a darker guy I'm gonna have to play with the brow color or replace them altogether, but hey I'm happy with it anyway..