You can see hakima pants, etc. with textures at http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=504608&Start=1&Artist=Ethesis&ByArtist=Yes The real problem is getting good bottoms for women. Too many are just skin tights, not traditional looking at all (the one in my image is not a traditional texture, but ...). I couldn't find good hakima pants for a female figure and finally gave up on the quest. http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?Who=communion is where I got the male outfit. I'll have to look at Phil's