"FyreSpiryt, i am glad for you, but we sure never met the SAME kind of masons.. here (in my area) they ar enot as nice at all... " Eh, so between the spagetti dinners and helping the poor crippled kids, they spent a whole ten minutes on world domination and ruining people's lives eh? ...lol... sorry dude, but I come from a long family line of Masons on my paternal side, and I have to say, they were all upright moral respectable people, generous to a fault and with great big hearts. Dearly loved, and dearly missed. Been around a few women's lodges in Europe as well, and they aren't what you say at all. The only thing secret about them are grips and codes, so they can identify each other. This is to prevent someone from trying to identify themselves falsely as a Mason in order to gain free hospitality, as in Masonry you are obligated to help another Mason when in need. Masonry is NOT a religion, and discriminates against none of them. I've heard it also said, scratch an anti-Mason and you'll discover an anti-Semite. When you look at all the anti-Mason pages on the web, that cliche seems to be borne out as largely true.