You know what get me about that comment "Remember 3d is an art so lets see some artwork... 9 times out of 10 that means going to Photoshop and doing a lot of touchups" ? For one, I consider myself a 3D artist, and I find it ironic that this guy has the nerve to suggest that you must use 2D tools to get decent 3D art! Postwork, BAH! A real 3D artist does tons of PRE-work and then you don't need postwork, and you have earned the right to call your work REAL 3D art and not pseudo-photoshop-3D! So I'd take anything else this guy has to say with a grain of salt. Just my perspective folks, don't slam me. 2D art is great and I admire the talents of people who do amazing things in Photoshop, but to me that AIN'T 3D work, and I don't like being told that it is.