So whats stopping you tweaking the base models til it hurts ? Thats what you have morphs and magnets, freestuff and merchants for - the tools are there, use them. I can agree with things becoming about the comment and not the art - but thats only IF YOU LET IT You cannot dictate how people communicate to you, unless your next image specifically stated how you want critique. Most people listen to that. Having said that, tonight (my time, anyway) you proved to the entire forum why people don't post helpful comments - they want to keep rendo gnats with an axe to grind out of their own galleries, and to avoid forum shitfights should they, heaven forbid, not communicate in a manner acceptable to such people. Posting an image at rendo does not automatically mean you have no right not to get offended. ~S