MachineClaw, At MacWorld I watched as Poser figures walked around in Carrara3... including stairs. (I think it will be in the next upgrade... a few weeks?) I made a report in this Forum right after the show. Working with other companies does mean integration of tools, not simply packaging and promotions. You guys can rant and claw the air all you want... I'd rather talk with the programmers and see what they are really up to... and give them a spot of encouragement and praise. Carolly