SamT, I see what you mean. I was at DAZ just now browsing the forum and I read that the mill cat comes into poser the size of vicki. !?!?!?! I didn't know about this (I don't own any virtual beasts, just real ones), so it was surprise to me. Obviously, DAZ don't think anything of it, and if other products are scaled randomly, that probably explains why. But I have to say, I think it's pretty bad. I mean, come one.... scaling is about as basic as you can get. I broker through DAZ and I go to hell of a lot of trouble to make sure EVERYTHING is perfect before I submit a product. I never rely on anyone else finding problems. It's bad policy. But I would have thought that something as obvious as scaling would be noticed and corrected. mac