Don't make promises your not going to keep. pretty simple. SR4 announcement was jan feb 04, now it's been pushed back to feb march 04. yet again getting peoples hopes up and then dashing them. Cl is not the only ones doing it. it's become a business practice that I really hate. Daz Mimic 2 update planned Dec 03, it' mid Feb and no info. Newtek lightwave 8 4th quarter 03, now it's coming out when its done, no release date. LucasArts announces Full Throttle 2 then scraps the whole thing. I'm just tired of companies dashing my hopes. I would much rather CL just say they are working on something and not put a release date and then keep coming back saying they are working on it get closer than have hopes dashed when release dates are passed by and forgotten about. If a release is missed by a week it's one thing, but missing releases by a month, sometimes a full quarter makes me wonder if that company doesn't need to invest in MS Project and work on thier milestones a bit better.