hilarious dialogue Anton. I usually avoid discussing poser with people who don't use it. Its either an awkward explanation to somebody who doesn't know/doesn't care or ::gasp! a 3d modeller who thinks that anything besides modelling a ferarri in LW is a "waste of time" and its a whole big controversy. I guess telling someone what poser is like is akin to trying to describe what an avocado tastes like; words just don't suffice. :)