well at the end i wil be so fed up that i'll say: i just push a "render button" and "voil!" :) but poser addiction and lack of abiltiy to expalin can be embarassing.; i remember past motnh, i had to quue into a telecom shop, waiting for my turn.. and next to me there was a pretty girl (don't care..) but with such BAUTIFUL clear and detailed eyes.. i was struggling on my eye/iris texure at that time, and i admit i did not even paid attention, i was simply starign at her on any angle very close up, to see her irises and eyes and print their pattern and details into my mind for further use... sure she felt embarassed and all, and i had to explain i was drawign on computer eye pictures to go on 3d human characters... and her own were very perfetct examples :) i felt dumb at a moment :)