its not anywhere near done yet... I'm just happy that the mesh isn't tearing with lots of little holes in it... lol. In fact, the elbows are working better in Carrara than they are in Poser. Vickie isn't very realistic for a human anyway, so I know she'll never look real. But the rig will work with minimal adjustment for most humanoid characters, realistic and non... which is why I'm doing it. The model isnt the important part of this picture.