Sorry but any loyalty I might have had is gone as far as CL is concerned. I see lots of folks saying oh give them some time they'll get it right. I wonder if the bugs can even be fixed. They said P5 was to be rebuilt from the ground up, so that these new items could be implemnted and old bugs dealt with, but I haven't seen anything impressive out of them for a long time. So much evasion and so little info. I didn't spend as much as you did alamonos but I'm still ticked off. Marque