niomuse - No, mostly pointless. Anton's original post was anything but elitist - this is just some fun and an easy way to introduce the issue and start a discussion. So don't bother with the 'serious' argument - we're NOT being serious - well maybe a couple here - and remember that in another area I'll be the Muggle and the other guy is the Wizard. So it all evens out anyway :o) :] Fish - fully aware that I'm not special in any way just because I understand how 3D works.