Just found you lot here so I haven't tried this yet, but I will, asap. 8) The results are great, I wish I still had my old puter to try it out on, it was a AMD K series 300MHz with 64Mb ram. It ran as slowly as treacle which is probably why I didn't use Bryce or Poser much back then. lol 8) I'll render it when I get off line and post it later. I now have a Athlon 2.5+GHz with 1.5Gb ddr ram which should be pretty fast. Catlin