Ynsaen: Good analysis. I think "rewriting the code base" is an unrealistic call to toss out baby with bathwater. On the other hand, fixing code base problems as fundamental as the screwball way Poser handles File I/O may require wandering into some otherwise core areas with a machete, and if so, so be it. I am certainly not looking for more modelling capability in Poser; I'd like to see them continue to refine their rendering tools, but if I want to lathe a wineglass, I'll do it elsewhere. There are enough demands on technical expertise in the program already, without adding modelling to the mix. The purists who look down their noses at people who "can only use Poser" are for the most part folks invested in the priesthood (you know, the grownup versions of the brat who used to chant 'I know somethin' yew don't!'). Mario Andretti probably doesn't know how to tune a carburetor, and I'll bet da Vinci didn't weave his own canvas. So we are hobbyists. So was Wm Carlos Williams. However, I think we are at a crossroads where two "hobbyist" paradigms are about to go their separate ways. The two camps are very clearly defined by the differences between Poser and DAZ/Studio, differences that are far more fundamental than a spat over getting Vickie "Face room ready." The DAZ paradigm is for us to purchase variety from them at a nominal cost. Instead of dynamic cloth, they are happy to provide us with a MFD for this character and that, at a nominal cost. If the MFD were made of dynamic cloth, we wouldn't need "The MFD for the Millenium Cat"; we could just make it fit in the Cloth room. If Victoria were "Face room ready," the market for this and that "character" would fall off quickly. The key is tools that work simply and can be understood easily. Poser is on that track. And there is the Poser paradigm: Not models but tools. Instead of selling you "Vickie's Hollywood Sleaze Greasy Do," Poser gives you the tools to create a hairdo on Judy that is potentially much more realistic and variable. Instead of selling you "Stephanie 3.12's Variant of the Funny Hat that Sort of Looks Like Something From LotR But Isn't Because Calling it that Would Be Copyright Infringement," Poser gives you easily used tools that make a generic hat adaptable. This is why the flirtation with "Content Parasite" was so wrong-headed. CL is not a "content provider" in that fundamental sense. I think it is a poor decision, not to fix the content issues in P5, because if Judy didn't have a boil on the bridge of her nose and some strangely inhuman bumps here and there, and there were dynamic hair for the brats, and the Face room had some basic missing morphs like "hooked nose" or "bulbous tip," and the provided textures weren't sketches, and the Primitives were all upgraded the way the ball and square were, many Poser 5 users would regard their 3rd-party purchases as optional. Mick