It could be poser, that is very true Aeneas. However, Daz just started this whole injector stuff fairly recently. It used to be that the characters came with all the morphs in them, and thus no need for this injector system. I understand why they did the injector system, to save on model size and get a little extra cash from us having to buy extra packages such as the facial expressions. But wow..this is so frustrating. :( I have looked at cinema4D a bit, myself. it looks like a great package.