Nope, haven't forgotten any of those also excellent sites. Just that the number of free files on most are not even on the same order of magnitude. I also would have guessed 3dcafe to be the closest, but a quick count of the real 3d related free files (meshes, textures, & plugins but excluding the duplicate .dxf files and the non-3d stuff: web tools, ads, games sounds&photos, fonts, etc.) came out to around 3200 files. I fully realize its hard to suggest an apples-to-apples comparison simply from a gross file count, but with less than 1/3 the number of files, it can't really even be said to be a close second. Even with all the non-3d files, its still considerably smaller than FreeStuff at R'osity. (... and I didn't really count all that, just pasted the lists of files into a spreadsheet and let it do the counting) No prizes, just trivia really, but with the impending ten-thousandth post here, it feels like a notable milestone which I think merits a degree of recognition combined with a hearty "atta-boy" and sincere thanks to the folks, both here now, and in the past, whether out in front or behind the scenes, who made it happen & have kept it rolling right along. You've made it a fun ride so far. Cheers!