Heya Wolf; how you are, mister? I can't speak from a Mac standpoint here, but I certainly hear you on the outdoor scene setup times with other apps. (only LW in my case.) I bought the Vue/Mover combo months ago but haven't really chewed into it, but I think that is going to change. I've tried some Poser animation imports into Vue, added some default atmospheres and basic landscapes and been impressed with the results. I know you're coming from a far more professional background than I, but for me I find myself spending far too much time trying to get an outdoor scene looking good (trees, animated water, animated skies, good looking terrains and rocks etc.) to actually do any animations, which is what I really want to play around with. I love my LW above all my other apps but I think that if I'm honest with myself I know that for outdoor scenes I'll probably get more done if I spend some time with Vue. The only reoccuring complaint that I've noticed is crashing with open GL display with NVidia graphics cards (which, unfortunately is what I have...) I know how the purists feel about this kind of thing, but I've seen nothing but outstanding results from some of these Vue people in their outdoor scenes, (animations included) and think that between LW, Poser (and Cinema in your case) and Vue, your already amazing work will ultimately be able to be completed more efficiently. Just my 2 cents. Best of luck to you man.