Okay, I got it to work reasonably well by loading the obj you supplied into uvmapper. I then assigned each section a material in alphabetical order. I then loaded that square into poser and checked the material listing. It was very close to alphabetical order, except two materials that should be in the middle of the list, moved to the bottom. Thats funny, what are the rules that govern ordering these materials correctly anyway. Anyway with the square loadup on poser with a material listing greatly improved, I loaded up the Target Clothing Item. I then saved them together as one obj. Then I ran the cr2 that loads the Target Clothing Obj with the square added to it. What happened was the Clothing Figure loaded perfectly with the new (almost perfect list). The square on the other hand, because it was never assigned to any group that the cr2 recognizes, didn't load up at all. This was my first try and more of an experiement than anything, but I am happy with these results. I can not find any the square at all, its non exhistant as far is poser is concerned. I can't even find it in the hirechy list. In other words, I got it to work in a hap-hazzard way with out any changing in the cr2 whatsoever. Maybe, by chance I just simplified your method! Just one question though, I renamed all the materials in alphabetical order, how come a few materials did not go in order? Do you have any sugestions as to why? Anyway, its a big improvement! Thank you marty