I started programing in 1974 on an IBM systems 3 main frame, no hard drives- but a card reader. LOL- back when it was fun to wright huge programs of 2k, lol. When cobal, fortran, and MS Basic were king. I remember having to make phone calls all over the world to log onto old BBS systems, but that was a few years after I started before they came into existance. Eventually I had my own. The first comp I owned at home was a timex sinclare, if anybody remembers those :) I still have an old but still working C64 in the closet.