Gee, 58, you got me beat, I just turned 57! I started around 1981 or so, with an Atari 400. I remember doing computer painting on a PC clone with a Super EGA card, 16 colors from a fixed palette of 64! Been playing around with Poser since Poser 2 was new, don't remember whan that was, though. Old dogs can still learn new tricks, I learn new things all the time! ;-)