I think I understand where Yarp is coming from. The inception of the first Poser Forum was simple. You created something, and wanted to share it. You placed it here for all to see and use. Pride was the reward back then. Yes, there is a great deal of Freestuff being placed. But...Yarp has a point. Commercialism has crept into this place in a very strong way. Oh, I understand those who wish to make some money in their creations. (I am part owner in the family business, so I "do" understand) Art isn't free in most cases. You have to pay to get into most Art museums too. Still, in a way, the innocence of the first Forum is gone now. And yes, it has gone "very" commercial. Most messages in the Poser Forum these days refer to an item you must buy in order to enjoy. Understand, my concern in buying these things is irrelevant for myself. This is my passion, playing with my HiTech Barbie Dolls. LOL! I will spend whatever I have to for whatever I wish to buy. Some people drink, some smoke, others gamble, that's where their "mad money" goes. For me, it's here, and in those things I see that fascinate me. (PhilC's Wizardess's Robe for example...beautiful, and well worth the money). But for those who cannot shell out $25 here, $50 there, $79 for a dragon, or $59 for a new male model, it's difficult. And the old Forum was a godsend to them and myself at that time. Things of incredible beauty given freely, and when someone like Anton Kesiel, spending hours planning, constructing, tweaking something like his lovely dragon would place it here for us all to use, you knew it was from the heart. Now, I see many things that are just bait, some only take you halfway there, urging you to buy the rest, while others simply ignore you if your not with cash. You are right Jack, there is a lot of new in FreeStuff. I have plans for the new TeePee that's there. It looks very well done. But still...things have changed. Some think for the better, others like Yarp, and myself at times, often remember the past. Most of us were rookies back then, worshipping the likes of Mobius, Roy Riggs, Anton, many others who showed us the way. We move on now. Things change, and we must adapt. You cannot do anything about yesterday...it's gone. Tommorow isn't here yet. You must deal with today, for it is now and commands attention. Still...sometimes it's sad to remember.