Putting in my two cents worth, I agree somewhat with Yarp. when I first started to come to the Renderosity, the free stuff area was filled with stuff that I wanted and could use. Now, it seems that a lot of the stuff there is fluff or freebies for someone who wants you to buy the bigger, better version. I am not saying that people shouldn't make money. I am all for it. But at the same time I am on a very tight budget. If I have 25 dollars left after paying the bills, that's all I have for the entire month. I am not complaining, but that is the way it is. I've got a wishlist for the store if and when I get a few bucks ahead. I find it annoying sometimes to read a message and find that all it is a commerical. How about a new forum for people who have stuff to sell in the store? Call it Commerical Alley or something. Like Yarp, I do love the place and have a lot of fun here! Let's not get so wrapped up in making a dollar that the fun goes bye bye. Jack, I know running a neat site like this cost the big bucks. I also know that the store is helping you make those bucks to keep the place up and going. What it might boil down to on my part is simply envy, of not being able to have all the toys that I want. I hope that I am bigger than that. But darn it. I do like my toys! So what ever you need to do, keep it doing. I had rather have the site than the toys. butch