yggdrasil, what ynsean and I were saying is that a product can not really be expected to be absolutely perfect in all poses, even if they are not into the extreme. Sometimes you have to just adjust your pose for the figure or move you camera angle so the pokethru doesn't show up. There is also the standard procedure of making the figures parts invisable if you are not using transparent MATs. I was bothered by a poke thru I was seeing in the belly of in The 3dZone post Number 132 when she is bent over backwards in an extreme pose. But she shows the figure in almost an identical pose in the same picture where the poke thru doesnt show up. There is a slight difference in the two poses but you really don't see it. You will notice that posing the abdomen and posing the chest almost do exactly the same thing, but the clothing will act differently for each. Just turn down the offending joint movement that is causing the distortion and transfer that movement to the other part. This will remove that belly pokethru, I am sure. If not, I will upgrade the cr2 as I said before, but if I keep adding JCM morphs to the cr2 it will get larger and larger thus use more and more of the users resources. I don't know if there any rules to this that apply, like I said before, with my MiniDress, its best to pose the buttocks before you pose the thighs because this way the bottom of the dress will flow better and not get jaggedy. With another peice of clothing the reverse might be true. Thank you Shadownet testing and posting that great review of my product. Thank you very much. marty