Angie, Just keep on keepin' on. I just went and looked at your gallery after reading this thread, and it's quite wonderful. I don't really see it as that close to Mindy's, but even if it were, so what? Isn't imititation the sincerest form of flattery? Besides, there is a limited number of themes available from within a fractal program, e.g. there may be an unlimited number of spirals, but they're all spirals. Does that mean every time I make one I'm copying someone else? I hope the guy sends me an IM like he sent you. He'll be reported before I finish reading it. Dennis