I bought Poser3 about 4 or 5 yrs ago but never played with it until P4 came out. I'll be 40 in April and I started using computers in '86 when I was 22 - although I remember having to fill out punch cards for certain tests and even seeing the machines that these punchcards would be put into, then cut, and then fed into another machine to process the data. That was in the early 70's. I think we went on a class trip to see "computers". As an aside, I'm surprised to see that we're all older than I thought and would have expected. I guess we're just young enough not to be totally freaked out by a computer and old enough to find what it can do like magic. Dave