Don't worry about it Himico, just force it out of your mind I've been using C4d and poser together for years and it used to really bug me, but i forced myself to just not care, if you must use the negative experience then use it to drive yourself to produce a C4d/poser image thats makes the self called experts go WOW...BTW does the swearing. non spelling Homophobe have a gallery?.....Steve