Ok Cath.....I imported one of the babies from the geometries folder into Poser 5. He's there....he didn't explode....I got no error messages or requests for an encoder. I ordered these babies the first day they were released. So.....I suppose that means I have the "hot baby" :) I'm clueless on the geometries thing Cath......is there something more you want me to do with him that will verify if this is an original baby or some other kind of baby. Like I said before, I have no other babies on my 'puter. Never purchased the DAZ baby and long ago moved all of the P5 characters to a CD disk. If there's another baby on my computer....he's hiding out!! :)