errm... I ought to point out that I'm not actually in the Graphic Arts industry - I'm a computer programmer. ('tho come to think of it, computer progamming is a sort of art.) But I do understand deadlines... All ARTISTS, wherever their drive comes from, try to instill in the viewer's mind the same emotion as they were imagining at the time. Whatever the medium, they used short-cuts. For instance, musical composers use established musical theory to work out their harmonies. (OK, some don't - but how many of them do you hear of?) Using Poser is a quick and easy way to get over an idea. It's HOW you use it that counts, plus the imagination behind the idea in the first place. (I don't set myself up as an example!) If purists always had their way, we'd be stuck dead at the time of the arrival of the 1st purist (probably somewhere around 2000 BC: "No can copy cave-painting of other antelope - must make new version from watching real antelope") Me, I'd rather click on a Poser figure, muck around with it til it looked vaguely like the image in my head and if I like it enough, I'll share it with others. Or, make a new figure (if the mood struck me: unlikely - I can't afford the hi-end 3D modelers). Now, where can I get all of the freebies that will make up Tracy Emin's "Bed" (or whatever it was called - the one that got shown in the Tate...) - I could make a scene and put a facsimile of Tracy in it (stategically placed so that no naughty bits are showing, just to placate the purists...) Sorry if that sounded like a rant (wasn't meant to be) just a little satire :-) Cheers, Diolma