Sorry! If you leave it in basic mode it is a little easier. I plan to have more presets available too, as soon as I get done doing the taxes. Comes from not wanting to limit what you can do with the shader- makes for a bit more learning curve, but I think more value overall. BTW, you also get pinstripes out of weave if you only populate one direction. ;-) Good for grills, esp with 3d and transmap options. Markd