Gerry sorry I lost that file when someone sent me a lovely virus :o)(it was my first so in my panic i formated without backing up properly).......i can post it straight away if you can send it again.....Vethril, if you get rid of the buttocks and make thighs instead then edit one of vikkis other dress cr2's to point to this obj (toot at poserworld for that if you need it) you'll need to mess with the obj for that so just post the whole lot if you want :o)....Steve