Heh, you guys are funny. I guess in order for me to be a "real" violin player, I need to go back to 16th century Italy or Germany, build a violin, then come forward to present time and buy my own violin off of the market at an exorbitant price...or else I can't be called a musician! Wow, it's a good thing I've got that time machine in the garage! Oh yeah, and if you think building your own computer qualifies you for the title "programmer," you've got it wrong. You also need to forge the hard drive platters, solder the traces on your motherboard, and design and manufacture your own CPU! And when you're done with that, you need to write your own OS and application. But of course, you're not allowed to call it Poser. I'm imagining the writers of the original "Star Trek" series in the 60's being told, "you're not qualified to tell this story until you've actually built a starship and gone 'where no man has gone before'. Go find us some alien life forms, and we'll buy your little series from you." Yikes. Like I said, "Poison Friends." It's okay to play with them; just don't let yourself get too close to them.