Drac, you got some top renders I can only dream of making. Why risk it? Secondly, didn't we want people to stop leaving Renderosity? I don't think there's anything wrong for a particular group, in this case a church, to make their rules. I personally think that making women wear veils is absurd but I don't go around telling that to my muslim neighbors, I dare not. I'm not religous, but frankly I think you should take your nose outta that subject. As far as the response. If I told someone "Your momma's a B**ch", how would that person respond? How about if I say Bryce sucks and you should "upgrade" to Vue? How bout that "Bryce, eat your heart out?" I think you'd get a similar response.