Thanks for the nice welcome, Bob. You'll find the doughnuts in the break room between the coffee machine and the tea-bags. I hope you like glazed. :D I didn't realize that Propack isn't a current product anymore. If that's the case, my decision has been made. I think I'll purchase the download/upgrade option of version 5. I have V2 and M2, but I like the version 3 models...it seems like no contest, so I'll probably go get the upgrade prices on those. I've also noticed a lot of impressive "Stephanie" variations and accessories. Decisions, decisions! I know DAZ has that platinum club thingie, except for the fact that you have to be confident that you would have spent $300 (US) in order to break even (I think it's a 30% discount on all purchases)...or $200 after paying for the Platinum club. Plus, there are plenty of other places to obtain (or make my own) stuff.... I'll give all of this some thought and keep you posted. Thanks again.