i'm happy i could help & that you like it :] well i use PSP... 72pt size font on a large original, space out the ...l e t t e r s, stretch, then convert to a raster layer to apply the glow effect... must be something similar in PS? someone will know :] now it's my turn to sleep sweet dreams ...er, have a good day! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz