Freebies for Text objects and spiral shapes, Elefont and Spiralizer respectively. I have to go with Wings3D for modelling, as well. If you're just starting out, you might want to use objects from the Free Stuff section at first, just till you get the hang of moving things around in Bryce, texturing, lighting scenes, etc. I would also recommend you build your experience with Still Shots before attempting animation. And as always, #1 on the Bryce Forum reading list, Susan Kitchens' "Real World Bryce 4". Don't use Bryce without it. :^) John

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