Riddokun, I have done several cartoon mode renders with poser 4, as you've seen in my gallery. I find hand colour the areas and in areas where there are two materail zones (like the sailor moon gloves. I render once in flesh and once in white, then place the white over the flesh and cut away the un-needed parts. Cartoon mode isn't something you can render away at for hours with out at least some post work. and as it's cell shading anyway there is nothing wrong with postwork, and sometimes is a must. It takes more time to get a good cartoon shade and I'm not expert at it in poser that's for sure, but it saves alot of time than drawing them from hand which is what I like about it :) Insomniaworks - Monday = work :( will render the boots insitue when I get home tonight...stay tuned.