hmm tanx nanoshi, but i do not have photoshop '(limited budget too), and yes tailor and MarkDc cloth conformer are pricy too, especialy given the fact that you also need the other markDC product (group editor) if you want to make cloth conversiosn trickier than v2 to v3 (means by example v2 to mayadoll) and it is same range of price... The price of poser artist for such feature, no matter it is vital, wel i have to give up, plus downloading the 18mb of the rmp product would cost me 3 more $ in phone bill :) for the black line tutorial thanx nanoshi but the newbie i am found a dirty trick to take care of black lines already and so far i use it without having to "draw" lines at hand or with beziers (because i sux at paint softwares). Don't know if your method gives out the best results but so far my own technic is enough for what i do :) so you won't give hints on how to fit V2/foreign clothes on anime/mayadoll then ?, yet you manage to do this without sailor or MarkDC cloth conformer ? give you kudo on this then :( little outof the box nopostwork cartoon mode render using the catsuit. In oder for you to realise i just did not paint fabric areas the same color as the doll body, i had to remove the breasts cover too, and put the maya free tanktop instead. Would the belly button had been visible under cartoon render and not covered by the catsuit belt, you could have realised i did not cheated this way (means painting parts of he catsuit with same color of bosy), but this in fact (with brest shape) shows my point :) it is crap (no postwork, as you said cartoon mode dont handle well in this mode especially with the catsuit because of all the trims areas making double edges :() but it was an experiment hopefully i have another newbie dirty trick to use transmapped materials (it is just insane, but possible :)