Riddokun, I was only joking about getting the clothes to fit, I didn't use any tricks or anything I just used the standard conform from within poser and then painted out the 'crap' in photoshop. Btw Paintshop pro I believe is alot cheaper than Photoshop and does just as good job and i think it has a 30 day trial (which never used to run out). it uses layers etc. there are quite alot of ways to draw black lines on your figure. I just choose to do it by hand as I am used to drawing anime that way although it's harder and easier in a paintpackage at the same time if that makes sense? harder to get the line shape you want but easier to remove if you go wrong :) but with everything it's trial and error and you will get better, I have just started using poser to draw figures so am a relative newbie too regards that kind of thing, but what I lack in poser skill I make up for in postwork. But what i've said before at the end of the day you are producing a piece of artwork if you had to redraw a arm or some hair to get the look it doesn't matter as it's the finished picture that matters. Your render looks ok, what I would suggest though, is use a white background and turn your main light up as bright as possible this will give a better anime shadow and the white background makes the colours brighter, grey tends to make the colours look dirty. what I would do with that image next is bring it into my paint package and brighten the image to get better cartoon colours and tidy up any lines I didn't want. My only real problem with the render is your lighting angle you lose the 'anime' nose it's kind of a trade mark of anime drawing. hehehe hark at me I made 3 pictures and am talking like an expert :/